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Ian Dunbar: Dog-friendly dog training |
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http://www.ted.com Speaking at the 2007 EG conference, trainer Ian Dunbar asks us to see the world through the eyes of our beloved dogs. By knowing our pets’ perspective, we can build their love and trust. It’s a message that resonates well beyond the animal world.
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1. I am not self-described 2.You can call em big hippos if you want but that makes you as ignorant as the people who call your pitbull names. You cannot truly expect understanding from others and not offer yours. On the other hand, you are speaking to a person who has studied both positive and negative reinforcement training and understands and uses both. I understand and accept your humour, I truly do, but I just wanted to give you that lesson. Take care now.
DoggRazor, as a self described “dog trainer” you’d be wise to have looked into Dunbar’s methods, especially with APBTs. Hey, you live with big blue hippos, so someone might live with a bear. Ha ha.
Ah, the penny has dropped. I’ve just realised why Ian comes across as so pissed off. Because he resents the recognition and subsequent success of Cesar Milan! How ridiculously insecure. This ludicrous argument over whether a long list of degrees and credentials make you a better dog behaviourist. Would Louis Hamilton be a better racing driver if he were better read on ‘racing phychology’? Deal with it Ian. And calm down. Stop threatening to ‘punch people out’ – it’s not worthy of respect.
What a frustrated angry man. Have you ever heard Cesar Milan say that he wanted to ‘punch someone out’? Cesar Milan, who is referred to in this talk, although not named, has a calm, assertive, friendly personality. But he is also the pack leader of his dogs. Dogs need a pack leader. Its just nature – you can’t compete with that. But Ian just seems to have a really frustrated angry attitude. Thats not a leader I’d find easy to respect. I wouldnt want to be his dog either, that’s for sure.
I really enjoyed this talk.I wish all new dog owners could watch this.
the difference between a dog and a bear… is would you live with a bear u fucking idiot. THis has to be the stupidest speech I have ever heard in my whole entire life.
This video should be compulsory watching for all dog owners. Shame it isnt.
Great man, great talk. If only everyone who owned a dog could hear this and take it to heart. Dr. Dunbar is the genuine article.
i like meer cats
Most excellent presentation… very refreshing and so very logical. Many thanks.
i was more interested by the stuff he was saying about humans than about dogs
Incredible presentation. I want whatever he’s written.
i cant get my dog to pee and poop outside. she does when shes out there, but she never begs to go out there before she goes and she’ll just pee and poop whenever she has to and wherever she is.
Common sense doesn’t come in a book. If you didn’t know your dog didn’t speak english or respond well to physical punishment as a training method then you never should have had the pleasure of having one as your companion.
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Very good vid; I’m glad someone who understands how a biological sentient machine that’s programmed to react to certain things thinks. Some are training them to do these “bad” things, only to get angry with them later. It’s much more complicated than “hoping like hell it will comprehend humanistic rules”, because it won’t, and it’s sad so many people think that they should be able to see our rules….
goood for you! WE however do need a book and video cause we want the best for our dogs… which is why we are here… why are you hear mr know it all?
Tell us about how YOU train… don’t sit there and lie about other methods!
more.more…bravo
My parents have two Border Collies, talk about easy dogs to train; they practically train themselves. They were housebroken in almost no time and learned commands in a few months. BUT they are extremely sensitive dogs that require LOTS of attention and a big yard to run and play. They are very happy dogs, but only because both my parents have home based businesses and can throw toys and play several times a day. People ought to know what they are getting into when they get a dog.
You may not have seen punishment as a scientific term, but it is commonly used:
+P = positive punishment
-P = negative punishment
+R = positive reinforcement
-R = negative reinforcement
These are the “four quadrants” of operant conditioning. I find that if people understand at least that basic terminology, they can discuss training and behavior without the histrionics that sometimes ensue between the two camps that Dr. Dunbar described in his talk.
People must be licensed to have all manner of property. Since many countries’ laws treat children as property, requiring some demonstration of understanding of their operations follows.
How about we also relabel children matured intrauterine parasites?
I have not seen correction as a true euphemism for punishment, and I have not seen punishment as a scientific term. Behavioral studies are also not my field. Is the audience at TED expected to be full of scientists? I suppose if it is a scientific term used with scientists, I can better understand the speaker’s use; it might seem strange to me because I viewed this lecture in a purely public medium.
I only recently heard of TED, and I do not know much of what occurs but interesting talks.
Sorry. When you said training your dog in this method requires a leap of faith most of you are not willing to take. I guess it just rubbed me the wrong way. I get carried away sometimes.
If you’ve been treating your dogs humanely then why would you assume that my comment was directed at you? Of course, you seem to have made the first volley in this, which tells me you have some ax to grind. I can easily beat your 200 animal figure, since I train professionally, but why would you want to get in a pi**ing contest if we supposedly agree that this is a simply, humane method that more people should use? Still puzzled about why you chose to pick a bone with me in the first place.